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Witamy ponownie. Dziś jest 4 września 2026 roku i mamy wielką przyjemność gościć Jeffreya Saxsa. Dziękuję.0:08
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Dziękuję za powrót do programu. Chciałbym zacząć od… chyba dużego pytania, które brzmi: „jak ty…”0:15
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Wyjaśnij Myślę, że tym razem w historii widzimy, że NATO jest zaangażowane w wojnę z Rosją.0:24
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Kiedyś to była wojna zastępcza. Myślę, że przekroczyliśmy granicę. Widzimy Stany Zjednoczone w tej wojnie z Iranem, która rozprzestrzeniła się na cały region i może również wciągnąć…0:33
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inne wielkie mocarstwa. Dyplomacja jest kryminalizowana. Stany Zjednoczone nawet teraz zastraszają i pożerają swoich0:40
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sojuszników. Europejczycy tracą na znaczeniu, a Stany Zjednoczone zdają się być na krawędzi wielkiego kryzysu finansowego. A jednak0:47
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Nasze rządy i media zapewniają nas, że wszystko jest w porządku. To wszystko zostało spowodowane przez innych ludzi, a my…0:54
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Wygrywanie. No cóż, to znaczy, i to wszystko jest ze sobą ściśle powiązane. Więc jak można wyjaśnić ten okres w historii?1:02
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Myślę, że ogólnie rzecz biorąc, jest to zderzenie wizji jednobiegunowej i1:10
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intencji Stanów Zjednoczonych z wielobiegunową rzeczywistością. Zatem z mentalności militarno-przemysłowej1:18
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kompleks USA jako certyfikowany bezsprzecznie myśleli, że do końca1:25
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Związek Radziecki, uh, Stany Zjednoczone są panującym mistrzem świata, uh od teraz i1:33
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na zawsze i to zderza się z fundamentalną rzeczywistością, że to po prostu nie jest1:42
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No więc. Stany Zjednoczone stanowią 4,2% światowej populacji, można by rzec 14,5%1:50
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światowego PKB. A to nie wystarczy, by zostać panującym hegemonem świata. Więc1:58
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co Stany Zjednoczone myślą, że są, jak działają, jak chcą być lub jak wierzą, że są2:05
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musi być w kolizji z podstawową rzeczywistością, w której Chiny są2:11
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większa gospodarka, w której większość świata nie chce się znaleźć2:19
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US made rules or US hijgemony. Um, and that collision shows up in all of these2:28
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uh theaters of war. Uh, this is the same story in the Middle East. It's the same story uh in Ukraine. It's the same story2:36
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in East Asia. It's a US uh war machine, the military-industrial complex that2:45
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runs the US political structures and the security state that believed firmly uh2:52
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from 1947 onward uh after the end of World War II that the US would win a3:01
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twilight struggle with the Soviet Union and emerge as the world's unique leader,3:08
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something like the British Empire of the 19th century or something like the Roman Empire of the 1st century AD. When the3:18
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Soviet Union ended, all of this was confirmed and the US went into overdrive to solidify the so-called unipolar3:27
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moment and that was subscribed to by both political parties.3:34
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So the idea that this is somehow a partisan issue or a Trump issue is not at all correct. Uh this is something3:42
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that is a US issue but not US in the sense of the body politic. US in the sense of the3:52
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leading forces of the United States which as uh Dwight D. Eisenhower explained to the American people on4:00
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January 17th, 1961 is the militaryindustrial complex which you could say4:07
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understandably or traditionally in all through history is the leader of the state apparatus that is the security state. Uh it's the war making capacity.4:18
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Uh and in the United States it basically means the Pentagon and the CIA and the now Silicon Valley, the war contractors4:26
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and the financiers. Uh and that has been the uh uh guiding force of American4:34
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foreign policy since uh the end of World War II. Uh when Dean Aerson uh who was4:43
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one of America's leading diplomats after World War II wrote his memoirs, he called it present at the creation. I4:52
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thought at when I was young that that was kind of a clever title. Now I think it's a kind of madness. The creation was not 1945 or 1947 or 1949.5:04
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But from the American point of view, it was the creation of the America world.5:10
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And the end of the Soviet Union was the confirmation of the American world. And we have had nothing since then but5:19
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rhetoric uh from some sane people, from some crazy people, but all pretty much5:25
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the same that America is the all powerful country. Mattaline Albbright,5:32
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the Secretary of State uh in the 1990s called the United States the indispensable country, the country that5:39
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sees further than anyone else. She actually said uh the neocons5:46
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said that we are the liberal hegeimon of the world. Uh, Brjinski wrote in 1997, a5:54
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very sane man, very decent man, uh, but he wrote that American power was irresistible, that Russia would have no6:03
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capacity but to exceed to American power. Because in a famous couple of sentences in his book, The Grand6:12
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Chessboard, he says, "American scientific and technological and financial and economic and military6:18
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dominance is so great that there is no alternative in the world." And uh this I6:25
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think is the real basis of uh where we are today. All of that is just not true.6:34
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uh it's not true today most importantly because of the rise of China uh but it's6:40
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not true because in our world uh there is no such thing as the permanent6:47
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hegeimon uh there never has been and there won't be because no power uh has6:55
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the unique advantage that it can impose its will on the rest of the world and7:02
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certainly not a power that wants to do it by extraction rather than by gift. So, one7:11
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final point about this collision that we're on is that uh back in the 1940s7:20
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after World War II, the United States really was extraordinarily powerful. It had for four years an7:28
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atomic uh bomb monopoly between Los Alamos and 1949.7:37
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Uh it was indisputably the industrial power of the world. It was indisputably the financial power of7:45
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the world. Unlike the Soviet Union, which had incurred 27 million deaths from Hitler's uh army, uh the United7:55
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States had one day of attack uh December 7th, 1941 on its territory and all the rest was building the military capacity.8:07
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So the US really was a economic, financial and military titan at the end of the 1940s.8:16
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And it was uh uh America's view at the time that it should use that advantage8:24
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to underwrite an America world. The Marshall Plan being the most famous part8:30
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of that. Well, fast forward 75 years with the US in a much diminished uh8:38
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economic and financial role without the dominance of technology uh with big8:45
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inequalities in American society and major debt which is also to a significant part mismanagement but to8:53
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some extent the cost of wannabe uh hegemony. Uh the United States doesn't9:01
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say we underwrite the world order. It says we extract. So now the United9:08
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States wants to charge other countries for the US military deployed in those9:15
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countries. Uh it literally says we have bases in Korea and Japan. We defend you.9:24
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You pay for us. Uh the US demands from Europe that it spend 5% of GDP. The US9:32
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says we need oil, so we'll invade Venezuela. We'll kidnap the president9:40
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and we will bribe or suborn the government and then Venezuela's oil is9:46
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ours. We turned from uh at least self-interested9:53
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beneficence, if you could say it that way. Uh but it was self-interested, but still it was giving. Uh we turned from10:01
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that to grifting and extraction. And Trump is uh he's a thug. He's a10:09
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low-level thug. He's always been a low-level uh thug. He's a New York real estate developer who bankrupted his10:17
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companies multiple times, but his normal way of doing business for decades was to10:23
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sign a contract and then after the construction was done to call in the uh10:31
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counterparty and to say, "I'm going to pay you half of what's in that contract uh and you're going to take half." and10:39
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the uh befuddled counterpart would say, "Excuse me, but we have a contract." And Trump would say, "Sue me. Sue me." He's10:49
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technically speaking an He's been that way for decades. This is his modus operandi. But now this is US10:56
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foreign policy. So this is actually extraction. So how can you be 4% of the11:04
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world population 14% of the world output about uh 13% of the import market for11:13
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the world extracting from everybody invading where you want uh threatening11:20
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where you want and expect that you're going to be able to keep control of an environment like that. the rest of the11:27
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world is saying no thank you and they're balancing the most uh basic feature of11:36
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geopolitics in history which is if you have a bully the other side gets together and says we don't want the11:44
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bullying and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization meeting last week well that11:50
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is uh about uh 40% of world output in population that says we don't want to be11:59
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bullied and bricks will meet next week and that is half of world output and population12:07
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approximately they'll be meeting in Delhi uh they say we don't want to be bullied now the truth is the United12:15
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States continues one by one with the Indians with the others to bully to threaten to bribe to do whatever it can12:25
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uh to try to break apart this balancing against the United States. But I think on the whole the transparency of Trump's12:35
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modus operandi is so clear. The thuggery of it, the crudeness of it, uh the illegality of it, the fact that there's12:43
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no such thing as an agreement with Trump, an agreement is what you uh what you reject the next day.12:52
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I think that this means that there is no clever path for the United States to12:59
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maintain the hegemony. So that's how I view it. Basic collision between self- reggard and reality uh with an13:09
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underlying change from self-interested beneficence to grifter gangster behavior.13:18
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And this is not a good situation. It's a very dangerous one.13:24
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I think that was nice description of it all. But uh but this foreign policy as you describe it though built up around uh while maintaining American primacy13:33
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and for the Europeans I would say a policy of uh well being the junior partner of the US and well taking that advantage. uh this appears to have now13:42
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shifted towards a foreign policy of uh I guess ignoring new realities and trying to roll it back. Uh how do you see the13:50
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economic consequence of this though building up? Because uh uh again this is another thing the Trump keeps saying you13:58
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know America's hotter than ever and uh and at the same time you know I'm not you know if you measure in I guess the14:04
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industrialization or energy crisis stability of currencies I mean how how stable is this system now? Well, it's14:14
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not much of a system after all right now. It is really a um a disorder rather14:21
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than an order. Uh and everybody is recalculating. Of course, the US looks14:28
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like it has advantages. So, no one's writing off the United States right now.14:34
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Uh the US has its AI. The US has a booming stock market, no doubt. uh the US is still the world's currency.14:45
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Some people say, well, in the end of the day, the US will crush Iran or in the end of the day, uh the US will get its14:55
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way. And so, uh even though, as I described it, there's a clash of with reality in this grandiosity of uh15:05
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American foreign policy. Um, a lot of countries are hedging their bets. Uh, I'm in touch with governments15:13
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that say, "Well, yes, Jeff, we of course agree with you, but we, you know, dare not insult uh the big man and uh th this15:22
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is still not a decisive uh moment. This is a a moment15:30
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of great flux and a lot of unpredictability and a lot of violence.15:36
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And we know that there's a lot of unpredictability in violence and potential complete disaster. But15:45
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from an economic point of view, it's worth remembering that in addition to the geopolitical changes and the wars,15:55
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there are some uh very very important uh deep uh changes underway in the world16:05
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that will reshape the world economy as well. Of course, number one is the technological revolution that's16:13
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underway, which is absolutely real. It's not owned by the United States, though the US led it uh for much of the time.16:21
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The AI revolution, the computation revolution, the digital revolution. This is real, deep and transformative and16:30
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incidentally in ways that are heatedly debated because it is a to some extent just an open16:38
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future and to a big extent an unknown future. Will AI uh lead to the end of16:46
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jobs? Will it lead to the age of abundance? will lead to runaway agents which end up blowing us all up because16:54
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they take over the nuclear launch computers because all the computers are put on open AI and lo and behold they17:01
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can't control their own agents. Uh you know we don't know uh the answers to some of these things. some we need to17:08
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prevent but uh also the United States is owned by these companies rather than governing these companies and so there's17:18
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a lot of technological uncertainty the ecological and environmental shocks in17:24
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the world are absolutely huge as well uh we are reaching major tipping points in17:32
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the earth system functions uh we could have a multimemeter rise of sea level anytime in the next century. It could be17:41
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tomorrow. It could be a major cving of the West Antarctic ice sheet that deposits enough of the Antarctic ice17:50
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sheet into the southern ocean that it leads to a pulse of sea level rise of several meters. That would devastate17:58
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hundreds of millions of people. Have no doubt about it. It would be a cat cataclysmic event. And for anyone who18:06
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doubts the force of nature, look again at the shocking videos that came out of Nepal a few days ago with the collapse18:16
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of a glacier uh that led to destruction in which buildings look like a Hollywood18:24
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film being brushed aside and thousands killed suddenly by this. A lot of this is going to happen uh in the future18:33
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because we are at tipping points of the ocean circulation, the ocean sea level,18:41
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the stability of the west Antarctic ice sheet, the uh boreal perafrost, uh the rainforests which are drying especially in the southern Amazon.18:53
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So that's another point that's very important and it involves fundamental19:00
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issues of food security uh water security for uh and uh physical environmental livability for example the19:09
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coastline uh that will affect vast populations. Normally you'd think we care about all of this. Well, Trump has19:17
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pulled us out of every environmental treaty and he's trashed all the environmental science. He's trashed the websites of our scientific organization.19:29
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So, the basic monitoring is no longer being done. And all of this is happening as we're going into what could be the most powerful El Nino in recorded19:38
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history just now. In other words, in in the coming months, there are forest fires everywhere that are massive big19:47
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droughts, tremendous change. So these are underlying factors. We also have19:55
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continued big demographic changes in the world. Africa will add at least20:03
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oh at least a billion people between now and 2050 in net population. Uh and uh20:12
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arguably two billion people by the end of the century. That's a lot. Uh and in other places20:20
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there are offsetting major demographic changes.20:25
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China's population could decline from 1.4 billion to under 1 billion people by the end of the century. So all of this20:34
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is to say, Glenn, this is would not be a quiet moment under normal circumstances.20:40
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We'd have major investments to undertake. We'd have major innovations to manage, to govern, to swallow. And20:49
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we're doing it at this absolutely uh bizarre moment where we have the20:56
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weakest American leadership probably in history. Although hard to really rank uh21:05
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James Buchanan, Millard Filillmore, and Donald Trump, but uh you know Trump is21:12
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definitely in in the bottom five of all time.21:17
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certainly the most ignorant of all of them.21:21
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Weak leadership, geopolitical tensions, a government that is more run outside a21:28
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public view than inside public view. I think it's no accident that Daniel Radcliffe, our CIA director, was the one21:36
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in Moscow last week. They have much more say of American foreign policy than the State Department, for example. what's21:44
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behind the scenes is much more important than what is in front uh of the picture in America right now. So all of this is21:53
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quite tumultuous and quite dangerous and quite unpredictable. The stable part is22:01
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the following. China, Russia, I hope and believe India,22:09
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African countries are not destabilizers, revolutionary powers, uh renegade22:18
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states. They actually have a quite straightforward political agenda and22:25
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that is economic development. These are countries that want a better life, want22:32
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to raise living standards uh and uh want to do it in a context of massive22:39
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technological, demographic, ecological and political change. But I believe that22:46
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the vast majority of the world, what we call the emerging and developing economies or the emerging market development economies, EMDEs is the22:56
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acronym that we use, that's about 85% of the world. They have no interest in23:03
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American hegemony. It's not their business. They have no interest in Western hegemony. They're not uh23:11
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obsessed with what's happening in Brussels versus Berlin. Uh they want to get on with their lives. Uh and they don't want to overturn the global order.23:21
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And they're not revolutionaries. They want to make public investments, improve their infrastructure, adopt artificial23:29
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intelligence and digital uh technologies, train their young people. That's the ballast in the world today.23:37
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They're not out for world domination like the United States is. Uh they're not dreaming of past empire like the23:46
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British are. Uh they're actually focused overwhelmingly on economic issues. Uh23:53
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pretty pragmatic. How do we pay for this? Uh how do we pay for our education system? How do we build out a power24:01
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grid? And so forth. If we just focused on those practical issues, these geopolitical dramas would fall by the24:09
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wayside. No one wants to invade the United States. No one wants to overturn the United States. No one wants to threaten the United States.24:20
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If you made a list of Russia's hundred objectives, invading Berlin or Paris would not be on the top 100. Uh not even24:28
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close. Uh if you look at all the times that Russia invaded Western Europe, well, you could say that was zero. Thank you. Never. Uh so don't worry about it.24:41
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Uh so if we got past the geopolitical obsessions, we could actually get on to some pretty practical issues.24:51
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Yeah. Well, no I agree with the sentiment though that is the you know the world is going through this massive shift in power uh economy, technology,25:00
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environment you know with all these wars as well. We we really need the best leaders now to navigate through these times and we have probably the worst on25:08
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both sides of the Atlantic. But you know if we go back to the end of the cold war and you were there with I would say a front row seat some very fateful25:15
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decisions were made in terms of structuring the new world order and also the European security architecture and25:23
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many of our leaders then understood the risks of the choice that were being made uh primarily that of organizing it25:29
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around hedgemony. But what what are the I guess the western policy makers failing to understand about where we're now though uh about this transition they're currently well presiding over.25:41
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Yeah. Basically uh the US uh got it all wrong at the end of uh the cold war and25:51
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that was the absolutely huge mistake. Uh the right end of the cold war was to say25:59
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my god we came through the 75 years of the bolevik revolution uh and ended with peace. Uh and this is uh quite26:08
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remarkable. It's the Soviets themselves who say god that was not the right approach. [laughter] We need to get out26:15
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of this mess. Uh it's the Russians and President Yelson said to me said to my face we want to be normal. We just want26:25
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to be a normal country. We want to have a market economy. We want to be at peace. We want to cooperate with the United States. We want to be normal26:34
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again after the period from 1917 to 1991.26:40
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And this was the answer waiting for us on the silver platter. Had the United26:47
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States said, "Wow, that was lucky. We got thousands of nuclear warheads on both sides. We had26:56
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what seemed to be at several moments in the last 50 years the possibility of the end of the world itself in nuclear war.27:08
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And now comes President Gorbachev and President Yelen to say let's put an end27:15
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to all of that. And if the United States had simply said, "Miracle, we go for it.27:24
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We cooperate." We'd be in the golden age right now. And I was trying to find I don't know if I can locate it in real27:32
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time, but I was trying to find a uh a document which was completely shocking27:38
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for me. Uh uh can I find it? Oh yes, I got it. So27:48
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if you give me one moment. Uh in 1991, I recommended27:56
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uh I recommended a series of financial measures to help the Soviet Union to28:04
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stabilize. uh and uh this was written with uh President28:12
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Gorbachev's top economic advisor Gregory Yavlinski uh and with the colleagues of28:19
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mine at Harvard uh and at uh uh at MIT and we worked together on a document28:27
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that said basically uh the Soviet Union is in a very financially unstable mode.28:34
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It's the end of uh the Soviet Union itself in its current form. They want to democratize. Uh the government is in a28:42
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deep financial crisis. It's uh very very unstable. Uh we should be helping to28:49
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stabilize the situation. And for me in my intellectual28:56
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uh format uh and and and formation the the big lesson of the 20th century29:04
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was the difference of how we had handled the end of World War I and the end of World War II. At the end of World War I,29:12
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there was a punitive settlement, the Versailles treaty. uh at the end of World War II there was uh on the one29:20
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hand the cold war which I think was unnecessary but there was also as I said American uh uh self-interested29:29
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uh expansive beneficence of the Marshall Plan and development aid and so forth29:36
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and the lesson as I learned it as a young student and as I read John Maynard Kaine's economic consequences of the29:45
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piece and Then as I became a practitioner myself is don't miss a chance like 199129:53
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to create uh uh to create a uh peaceful environment. Don't be punitive. Don't30:03
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declare victory and uh impose uh subordination30:10
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policies on the other side. be magnanimous, but especially be clever to30:17
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build an era of peace. Well, all of that is to say that I work both for President30:23
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Gorbachev and President Yelen on a package of Western assistance to help stabilize a profoundly destabilized30:33
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environment. When an empire collapses, it's unstable. uh30:40
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when the Soviet Union dissolves suddenly 15 states that don't have a means even of trade with each other when you go30:48
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bankrupt which or become insolvent you can't pay your bills as the Soviet Union and Russia became you can get30:57
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hyperinflation you can get massive destabilization so as a financial31:04
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expert I recommended what are the mechanisms the tools of stabilization.31:12
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Well, all of this, Glenn, is to say in in the document that I'm looking at on my own screen, uh the proposal we made31:20
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went to the White House, and I didn't know it for decades afterwards. Uh but it was considered and explicitly turned31:29
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down on a meeting of the National Security Council on June 3rd, 1991.31:36
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And because of the Freedom of Information Act, someone ended up sending me the document. And it is the31:44
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minutes of the meeting in which the proposal is turned down.31:50
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And the low lives in the White House are shocking in their recklessness,31:57
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I would say, imbecility, including the person who at the time was head of the office of management and32:04
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budget, Richard Darman, who had been a colleague of mine at Harvard University.32:10
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and he was a fool. And he represented the arrogance and blighteness and ignorance of the American leadership.32:23
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And I'll quote one line. They turn down the proposal. And then Darin says the following. I want to seem serious while32:33
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not fooling ourselves. We have enough ingredients already for a good PR package. The list doesn't need to grow.32:41
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We shouldn't shoot our wad now. Mikall Gorbachev is a showman. He will pressure us no matter what. We may need something else later. Okay. What is this saying?32:54
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These are people saying we need a PR package. This is before the G7 summit where they told Gorbachev go to hell. He went home. He was abducted in a coup.33:07
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That was the crash that then led to Yeltson coming to power and the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Okay, we need a PR package.33:19
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That was their view. He's a showman. Gorbachev.33:23
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Gorbachev was not a showman. Gorbachev was trying monumentally33:29
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to change a global order to peace. And the answer from the other side was33:38
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And just to emphasize, this is one particular meeting about a financial33:45
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package, but it's been all the way since 1990. And we should remember33:53
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the even bigger that was part of this scene because and I was there34:00
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through all of this in person. I saw this, you know, 1989 was a kind of34:06
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miracle. Peace, the end of the division of Europe and Gorbachev was the34:13
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constructive agent in all of it. I don't think people even understand that. But when I was advising the Polish34:20
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government for example uh in 1989 on how to democratize and make its economic34:27
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reform and to stabilize, Gorbachov was the one putting together the coalition government that included34:35
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the solidarity opposition with President Yarzski.34:40
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Gorbachev managed that the peaceful transformation of Poland to a democracy and a market34:48
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economy. He managed it personally. He talked to Leth Voensa's top deputies about you need to join the government.34:58
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I'm going to help you to do it.35:01
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So here we have peace in our time. And then uh the Berlin wall falls. I was not35:10
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in Berlin on that day. I was in Bgrade on that day. But I was deeply involved35:17
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W tych wydarzeniach. I nagle Cole mówi: „Dobra, Niemcy się zjednoczą”. Teraz Gorbaczow miał weto, żeby…35:28
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tego chciał. Ale Gorbaczow nie zawetował zjednoczenia Niemiec.35:34
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Gorbaczow powiedział: „Tak, zgodzimy się na to. Chcemy zjednoczonej Europy. Chcemy wspólnego domu dla Europy. I kiedy35:42
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wiedzieć, ponownie, gorąco zaprzeczane przez tych głupców, którzy rzekomo przewodzą zachodniemu światu,35:51
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W styczniu i lutym 1990 roku Gorbaczowowi bez przerwy obiecywano, że NATO35:58
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Nie wykorzystałby tej sytuacji. Nawet nie drgnął.36:03
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I wiemy, że Hans Dietra Genture, niemiecki minister spraw zagranicznych, wygłosił wówczas słynne przemówienie, w którym powiedział:36:11
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To oznacza brak ruchu na wschód. Wiemy, że James Baker III, amerykański sekretarz stanu, powiedział to…36:19
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Gorbaczow. A odpowiedź Gorbaczowa brzmiała: to bardzo ważne. I wiemy, że Helmet Cole powiedział to Gorbaczowowi na…36:28
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10 lutego 1990 r. Wiesz, Glenn, ci ludzie zaprzeczają temu wszystkiemu.36:36
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władza dzisiaj. Co Friedrich Merks mówi o obietnicach Niemiec, że nie36:43
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Rozszerzenie NATO? Ani słowa. A co na ten temat mówią amerykańscy naukowcy?36:51
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Prawie nic. To haniebne. Wszystko to jest udokumentowane. Można to znaleźć w Archiwum Bezpieczeństwa Narodowego.36:58
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Uniwersytet George'a Washingtona. Ale nikt o tym nie mówi, bo kiedy wygrywasz, wolno ci oszukiwać.37:06
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Możesz kłamać. Możesz, nie musisz dotrzymywać żadnych umów. I tak się stało. Tak jak Richard Darman37:14
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powiedział: Gorbaczow to showman, potrzebujemy dobrego pakietu PR. Powiedzieli: „Dobra, teraz37:21
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NATO, teraz przesuwamy się na zachód, a właściwie na wschód." A swoją drogą, kiedy doradzałem Polsce, Zig Bjinski bardzo mi pomógł, naprawdę37:31
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dżentelmen, uh, i naprawdę pomógł w tej transformacji.37:35
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Ale potem, w 1997 roku, napisał swoją słynną książkę „Wielka szachownica”. I powiedział:37:42
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„Stany Zjednoczone mają obecnie tak dużą dominację, że możemy ruszyć na wschód z NATO,37:49
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Unia Europejska i Rosja nie będą miały innego wyboru, jak tylko przekroczyć granice”. To właśnie37:56
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Cała książka traktuje o tym, że Ukraina jest tym, co nazywamy geopolitycznym punktem zwrotnym.38:03
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To dosłowne słowa Brjinskiego.38:07
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I on to definiuje. Geopolityczny punkt zwrotny to coś, o co nie dbamy, poza tym, że jest to dla nas przydatne w naszym życiu.38:15
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Dążenie do prymatu w Eurazji. Więc to wszystko Glenn ma powiedzieć, że…38:22
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w to wszystko z arogancją zwycięstwa, z wieńcem laurowym na głowach.38:30
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Byli teraz najwyższym hegemonem świata dusz. I oczywiście38:39
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wtedy było urojeniem, a dziś stało się dla nas niezwykle niebezpieczne.38:47
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A całe podejście się nie kończy, bo teraz mamy absolutnie38:54
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nieodpowiedzialny oszust jako prezydent, który wyraża to uczucie w najbardziej prymitywny sposób39:01
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możliwy sposób, w każdej godzinie każdego dnia, w jaki będzie niszczył inne cywilizacje39:08
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że Kanada jest 51. stanem, a Grenlandia należy do Stanów Zjednoczonych, niezależnie od tego, gdzie się znajduje w danym momencie.39:17
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Wyraża ten pogląd, ale jak gangster, jak łobuz, a nie jak prezydent.39:26
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Brasinski napisał również, że jeśli Rosja kiedykolwiek będzie musiała jasno się z nią komunikować, jeśli kiedykolwiek będzie stawiać opór, musimy to bardzo jasno powiedzieć39:33
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im, że możemy zamknąć im szlaki morskie. I teraz jesteśmy w trakcie robienia tego, przejmując ich statki i tak dalej. Ale…39:42
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Tak czy inaczej, myślę, że Glenn powinien o tym wspomnieć na koniec,39:48
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nie mamy żadnych wąskich gardeł, nie39:54
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decydująca, uh, uh przewaga technologiczna, uh żadna magiczna formuła, nie ma kontroli nad40:03
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Dolar, nic, co wzmacniałoby złudzenie. Więc cokolwiek by myśleli40:10
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wiesz, co ma Open AI albo Claude, Chiny też to mają. A jeśli oni40:18
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Nie mają tego teraz, będą mieli za 6 miesięcy. I mają, uh, tak wiele z tego, czego my nie mamy. A Iran może utrzymać40:26
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Stany Zjednoczone w impasie, a może nawet gorzej. Jesteśmy już daleko poza wszystkim.40:36
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zdalnie uzasadniając tę wspaniałość. No i dobrą nowiną dla tego świata jest zmiana40:45
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nastawienia jest w rzeczywistości najważniejszą rzeczą, której potrzebujemy za darmo. To faktycznie by zaoszczędziło40:53
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